Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Refreshing a Mossberg model 800 Rifle

My neighbor brought me a couple of guns that he wanted me to appraise and clean up. He planned on selling the guns and since they had not been fired or even looked at in a long time, he wanted me to "freshen" them up a bit. One of the guns was this Mossberg model 800A rifle. 
 These were made from 1967 to 1980, designed by Louis W. Seecamp. You may recognize that name as the creator of the Seecamp pistol:
 Note the serial # on this one....maybe they were attempting to displace the Walther PPK as Agent 007's side arm?
Back to the Mossberg. The model 800 was created at the behest of either Montgomery Wards Department stores or Western Auto (or maybe both??), both of which sold many brand labeled guns made by companies like Mossberg.

By the mid 1960's the bolt action rifle had pretty much been perfected. 
Using elements from the Mauser 98, the Japanese Arisaka and the Weatherby, Seecamp built a gun that was well thought out and tough. Many have reported excellent accuracy with the Model 800 as well. 
While doing some research on this model I found a lot of stories that ended with "I wish I hadn't sold it", which in my book is the best kind of review.





I find it interesting that this gun was a lower end, economy priced gun in its day and today it would be a mid to higher end gun. This is a similar story to the Savage model 110.

The Mossberg 800 came in different calibers which were designated by a letter following the model number. The 800A, the most common, was chambered in .308 Winchester, the 800B in .243 and the 800C in .22-250. These were standard grades, Mossberg also made a higher end version with Mannlicher style stocks and factory mounted scopes. In addition they made another bolt action rifle (with a slightly different design) that was a long action for the .30-'06, it was called the model 810.

This particular gun, with a 5-digit serial number was made in 1969 or 1970. 
You can contact the folks at Haviln Sales & Service with your inquiries, they sell all things Mossberg and are the quintessential experts.

This gun will need some good cleaning. I will disassemble the bolt & trigger assembly. I will polish the bolt and oil the internals and wax the external surfaces metal surfaces as well as the internal & external wood.
Here are the before pictures, you can see small rust spots...



Before I dis-assemble any gun I inspect it and clean it. Scrubbing the bore with a brass brush and Hoppes #9.

Once the bore and chamber are clean, dis-assembly starts with removing the barreled action from the stock.

Then remove the trigger components from the action, the trigger assembly housing is made of plastic
Then we dis-assemble the bolt


The firing pin had some corrosion and gummed up grease/oil. This is a bad thing, if the firing pin hangs up you could get a hang-fire (a delayed fire) which could prove to be deadly. After cleaning the gunk, I polished the bolt body and firing pin on the buffer.
I then began cleaning the metal. I used 0000 Steel Wool and some gun oil to gently remove the small rust spots.
After the oil & steel wool treatment I moved to carnuba wax. Two coats on the barreled action

I also wax the interior and exterior of the stock. Many people forget the interior, but that wood needs some conditioning too. The oil in the wax will help the wood from drying and splitting.
Don't worry if you can't get all the wax out of the crevices, it wont hurt anything to leave it there.
Before buttoning everything back up, I cleaned & waxed the exterior of the scope, cleaned the glass and then rubbed some leather dressing into the sling.

The gun is now presentable.




Before and after:












Links


Gun Parts Corp
Gun Data
Havlin Sales & Service

9 comments:

  1. nice i thinking of picking up a 800a 308 for 220$

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  2. Í need parts to my rifle moosberg 800A

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    1. I am looking for a firing pin for an 800B, any ideas?

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  3. Is it safe to assume that refreshing a Model 800B would be exactly the same?

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  4. In need of some help. I have an 800A that has a two piece scope base on it. Trying to find out if there are any one piece picatinney bases that could fit it. Mossberg referred me to Havlin but he couldn't help.

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    Jim

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  5. I have the Western Field M780. I just got it, and it was totally gummed up with old oil. I used 91% Isopropyl and 0000 steel wool on the bolt and firing pin as well as the interior of the receiver and the magazine. Then I cleaned the bore and exterior surfaces with cleaner/lube. I didn't disassemble the trigger. I sprayed cleaner lube into it and scrubbed it with brushes and cotton swabs. I took off the recoil pad and grip cap, and polished the black grip cap. I cleaned the pad thoroughly with leather/plastic cleaner. The "white" grip and recoil pad were cleaned with Isopropyl and then I used 800 sandpaper to scrub the yellow off the edges. Afterwards I polished the on a buffer wheel and washed them with soap and water. Viola! they are white again. Looks cool with the white edges. In disassembling and cleaning the bolt, I could get to everything except the extractor and ejector. I sprayed that area with cleaner/lube and scrubbed it with a tooth brush. I waxed the furniture and exterior metal. Everything else is cleaned and oiled lightly. I also had a Western Field 2x7xsomething scope. I cleaned it up and it seems OK, but I had a Vortex Diamondback 4x12x44. I found some Redfield wide field see-through scope mounts on eBay. I mounted the Vortex and it shoots great at 50 yards Remington .308 Core-Lokt 50gr). The irons are slightly off. I will take it to the range and get the scope dialed in for 100 yards and beyond.

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  6. (Remington .308 Core-Lokt 150gr)

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  7. I just bought a Mossberg 800A from gun.com. Even though they were cheap in the day, with prices like they are now, it cost me $400. Said in excellent shape. I have bought 2 Remington 788 through them. No reason to doubt what they say. Love the 788 308. The other one was the 788 243. Both in beautiful shape. Really got into bolt rifles. I think I am addicted.

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